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Round 3


 3.01
RB Ronnie Brown (R)
QB: RB: Tomlinson Taylor RBrown  WR: TE: PK:
Kellogg
Analysis
 3.02
RB Stephen Jackson
QB: RB: Alexander  Jackson  WR: CJohnson TE: PK:
Houston
Pitzer
Analysis
 3.03
QB Donavan McNabb
QB: Culpepper McNabb RB: Westbrook  WR: TE: PK:
Butler
Analysis
 3.04
RB Lamont Jordan
QB: RB: Holmes Jordan  WR: Harrison TE: PK:
Tinker
Analysis
 3.05
RB Chris Brown
QB: RB: James CBrown  WR: Owens TE: PK:
Holm
Analysis
 3.06
Trade Analysis
TE Tony Gonzales

QB: RB: DDavis WR: TE: Gonzales PK:
Hollar
Analysis
 3.07
TE Antonio Gates
QB: RB: Barber RJohnson WR: TE: Gates  PK:
Del Pilar
Bonini

Analysis
 3.08
RB Tatum Bell
QB: RB: McAllister Dillon  Bell WR: TE: PK:
Hickerson
Analysis
 3.09
RB Carnell Williams (R)
QB: RB: DDavis CWilliams WR: TE: Gonzales PK::
Hollar
Analysis
 3.10
WR Torry Holt
QB: RB: McGahee Lewis  WR: Holt TE: PK
Dolfi
Walls
Analysis
 3.11
RB Cedric Benson (R)
QB: RB: AGreen KJones Benson  WR: TE: PK:
Cahill
Analysis
 3.12
WR Joe Horn
QB: Manning  RB: Martin  WR: Horn TE: PK
O'Leary
Analysis
3.01 RB Ronnie Brown (R)
By Greg Kellogg

Again, I was looking at quarterback and wide receiver but felt that if I delayed taking my third running back here, the likelihood of getting a starter would be nil. I selected Brown over fellow rookies Carnell Williams and Cedric Benson because of the lack of competition for his position. In Tampa, Williams will have to beat out Michael Pittman and though he should do so, Pittman will likely take away some carries and receptions. In Chicago, Benson will have to contend with former first round pick Thomas Jones. Again, I see some carries and receptions at risk in this situation.

Brown has the disadvantage of playing on a team that had a putrid offensive line in 2004. For him to justify this pick, the line play will have to improve.

But even with the existing line, the combination of Sammy Morris, Travis Minor, Leonard Henry and Lamar Gordon gained 1,116 yards on 322 carries and scored nine touchdowns. These same players also caught 51 passes for 347 yards. Most, if not all, of that production should go to Brown in 2005.


3.02 RB Stephen Jackson
By Houston | Pitzer


The future is now for Jackson, who takes over as the Rams' primary runner this year. He is not the receiver that Marshall Faulk was, but he should reach 1,200 yards rushing and be a reliable scorer, given that he is the main option, including in short-yardage, in the Rams' reliably high-scoring offense. Jackson was the player we had targeted here back in the second round, although there were other backs we also would have felt comfortable taking. We knew that if we didn't take a second back here, there wouldn't have been much left for us near the end of the fourth round.
Commissioner Comments: 
If you don't like this pick, you're living in the past.  Expect Marshall Faulk to be treated like a relic this year, kind of a playing coach.  The Rams finally found their replacement to the future Hall-Of-Famer last year, and Jackson is ready to take over.  Will it happen in Week One or Week Ten?  Unsure, but with Faulk's playing time decreasing steadily over the past couple of years it's a lock that Jackson will be the lead back when 2005 is in the books.
 
While I might have taken Chris Brown or Cadillac Williams here instead, Jackson is a terrific player who is almost certain to be first-round material for the 2006 fantasy season.  He's more than serviceable as this team's RB2.
Guest Comments: 
Steven Jackson is a wonderful player that appears to be an "up and comer". Marshall Faulk was the #1 pick in most fantasy leagues for several years. The former NFL MVP is still one of the best receiving backs
in football. 

The smallish Faulk has 100 career TDs in the NFL and is always an option Martz will consider in the redzone. Faulk only had 3 TDs in 2004, not because of Jackson though. Jackson only had 4. Four years ago, the Rams runningbacks scored more than any
other backfield in the NFL. Which team shows up in 2005? 

I would guess somewhere in the middle. Similar to Marcus Allen in Kansas City, until Faulk retires he will pose a threat too Jackson's TD totals. That and the receiving stats (at a point per reception league)
trouble me a bit about this pick.

My biggest concern is that everyone has predicted Marshall's demise and has acted as if last year was an uncharacteristically poor season for him. It really wasn't. He only ran for 44 less yards than in 2003. His rushing average over the previous 3 years is only
848 yards. He had more receptions in 2004 than in 2003. Since being traded to the Rams, Marshall has never had more than 260 carries. The last 3 years he's averaged just above 200 carries. That works out to him losing roughly 4 carries a game more than
he previously did. 

For some reason, us fantasy football folks have always been obsessed with Faulk's backup. Jackson ran for 673 yards in 2004. In 2003, Harris and Gordon combined for 553 yards. That's only 120 yards less in a season. Gordon would be traded to the Dolphins
and not perform particularly well. Another previous supposed great Faulk backup, Trung Canidate, did not do well in Washington. Are we correct in embracing Steven Jackson this year or is he the next
Faulk backup to appear better than he truly is?

Spin this one more time. Faulk had 195 carries in 2004. Suppose Jackson gets that many and their roles "flip-flop". Even with Jackson's gaudy 5 yard average, that is not 1000 yards rushing for the season. I thought Gordon and Canidate were very good hence, Jackson worries me.


3.03 QB Donavan McNabb
By Jim butler
Ok...everyone can stop laughing and joking. You there, pick up that jaw! As mentioned in my Culpepper analysis, I am approaching this draft in quite the different direction than all the other owners. By now most teams are stocked with 2 or possibly 3 runningbacks. This is pretty much status quo for this league, as it seems most leagues are. I had actually targeted RB Steven Jackson at this spot and had he been available, few would have been laughing, however he was drafted one spot ahead of me. My selection of McNabb was lead by the following:
 
He's the last of what I consider the top 3 Quarterbacks (Daunte, Peyton, McNabb) and most approach their number 2 QB with the thought of covering a bye week. In this league your number 2 could be your number 1 on any given week dependant on who you have on your roster. Twice last season, McNabb outscored Culpepper by more than 20 points and Culpepper outscored McNabb by the same margin in two weeks last year also, not to mention the 40+ points Culpepper put up during McNabb's bye week. Usually you don't stock up at QB with this in mind, but the fun part about the FAD is that an owner will never find himself saying, "I wish I had started so and so instead!"
 
Have I gone completely insane? Only the end of the season can tell, but might as well have fun on my way there. At the least, this selection should create a little bit of discussion for the water cooler. :)
Guest Patrick Brock Comments: 
From my understanding, this league takes the highest point total for all the quarterbacks on your roster.  Therefore, if Culpepper gets only 10 pts one week, he can make up for it with McNabb getting 20 pts.  This does not make sense though.  With only one running back on the roster, it would only make sense to fill your empty starter slots than take a back up in the third round. 

There are still some legitimate starting running backs available like Lamont Jordan and Chris Brown.  You could also even justify a pick of Holt or even a popular rookie like Cadillac or Benson.  Unless there is a trade in the works, I think this at least a strange pick if not a completely blown one. You can only count one of their point totals a week. Now for a number two running back, you are going to have to rely on a guy like Bennett or Henry.  These guys all have question marks (Are they going to start? Are they going to split?, etc) If you are going to reach here, why not reach and take TEs Gonzo or Gates?


3.04 RB Lamont Jordan
By Brady Tinker
This is quietly a nice pick-up for the Raiders who have been searching for an every down back that can stay healthy, catch passes and score in the red zone for some time.
Norv Turner will love the 26 year old Jordan - who is big, fast and hard to tackle on the first hit.
He has good hands and runs north and south with the football.
The Raiders offense will score lots of points this year with Kerry Collins having both Moss and Jerry Porter to look downfield to.
Jordan will stay focused/interested on every play - he will put up very nice fantasy numbers.  The Raiders defense will be giving up plenty of points - so Jordan and his offensive mates will be in many fast paced games that offer lots of possessions for each team.

3.05 RB Chris Brown
By Tony Holm 


On the positive side, I was considering Chris Brown, Steven Jackson, LaMont Jordan or Tatum Bell when taking TO back in the 2nd and two of them made it back.  On the negative side I took Chris Brown.  His upright running style will get him killed one of these days and that's because of his 6'3" frame.  That's too tall for a RB in the NFL as that body will take a pounding.  His hamstrings are fragile, his ankles are scoped, there's rumor of Travis Henry.  But for now he's the starter and he will open the season that way.  The Titans want insurance as they really like what they see when Brown is running the ball and I still expect Chris Brown to come out of the gates hard and strong.  And if, if, if, if he makes it through unscathed, a pot of gold awaits.

Cutting Chris Brown's season in half, in the first half of the 2004 season he rushed for 810 yards and 5 TDs with some receiving sprinkled in.  If Chris Brown is able to make it through, 1600 yards and double digit
touchdowns await.  Another classic boom/bust pick I like so much in the FAD.

If history serves, this is usually the point in every FAD draft that I end up making a really dumb pick.  Be warned.

3.06 TE Tony Gonzales
By
Tim Hollar

Trade Analysis
Hickerson gave up 3.06 (Gonzales) + 4.07
Hollar gave up 3.08 + 4.01

What can be said about Gonzo that I haven't already said?  He's a wide receiver who scores like a running back, but plays tight end.   He's the clear #1 overall aerial and red zone option for the high powered Chiefs. And what's changed in Kansas City to think 2005 can't mirror 2004 for Gonzales?  Not much.

In fact, with Oakland having acquired Randy Moss, one could make the case the KC will be engaged in even more shootouts - divisional and otherwise in 2005.   Obviously, I'm thrilled to have him.


3.07 TE Antonio Gates
By Del Pilar | Bonini

Who We Took and Why:
After securing two RBs in our first two picks we had a little more freedom with our third selection. However, our initial choice of Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez fell by the wayside when he was selected one spot in front of us. While we’ll never know we did wonder if Tim Holler was moving up because he’s familiar with our strategy or if it was just coincidence. That move left us to select Gates, who had a huge breakout season in 2004 to the tune of almost 1,000 yards and 13 TDs. All things being equal, we would’ve preferred Gonzo’s consistency, but we still like Gates’ ability and explosiveness.

Other Candidates Considered:
Once Gonzalez went we debated about whether or not it was too early to select Gates, but we determined he would never make it to our next pick. Then it became whether the drop from Gates to the next tight end was big enough that we needed to select him here in lieu of a third running back. We thought about the crop of rookie running backs and Denver Broncos RB Tatum Bell, but ultimately we felt securing one of the top two TEs made more sense than drafting any of the available running backs as we viewed them all as a bit of a reach at that point in the draft.

Current Strategy:
With two RBs on roster we took a bit of a calculated risk with our third selection. On one hand we’ve secured a scarce fantasy position, but on the other hand we’ve left ourselves open to having to reach for a shaky third RB with our next selection if none of the players we wanted fall to us in the fourth round. Our next pick could go a long way in determining what kind of overall draft we have.


3.08 RB Tatum Bell
By Jerome Hickerson


Well, I got the guy I had targeted for this spot (targeted, that is, after Chris Brown was taken one spot ahead of my original 3.06 spot.) So my trade downward turned out ok. But will this selection pan out?

Bell is a boom or bust kind of guy. The Denver RB that you want tends to come out of the darkness rather than from the limelight. And this year, Bell is in the Denver limelight. So this pick sort of goes against the trend.

The real problem with taking the Denver starting RB is that in Denver , when the starter gets injured, the “temporary” replacement often keeps the job. I decided to take this gamble for a couple of reasons:

  1. Ron Dayne?? I don’t think so. He may vulture some goal line TDs, but he doesn’t worry me regarding taking the starting job.
  2. Maurice Clarett? I’m in Ohio less than a hour from the Buckeyes… so I saw a bit of Clarett. Granted, most of it was not on the field. Unless Clarett has grown up a lot, I don’t see him making a big impact this season. And I won’t be a fan of his regardless. (Count me among most of the Buckeye fans in that regard.)

So, under the circumstances, a late third round pick for Tatum Bell seemed a worthwhile gamble. And it is a risk – but I feel my first two rounds are solid so taking a reasonable, calculated risk on a #3 RB seems acceptable


3.09 RB Carnell Williams (R)
by Tim Hollar

Trade Analysis
O'Leary gave up 3.09 (CWillams) + 6.04 + 7.09 + 11.09
Hollar gave up 3.12 + 5.12 + 7.08 + 11.08

As much as I threw my trade offer out to Shannon O'Leary on a lark, I wasn't actually mentally prepared to make a selection when I saw it had been accepted!   I had braced my mind for selecting whoever fell to me.  

When suddenly I was able to have my choice, I took Williams over JJ Arrington and Cedric Benson because of skills dual threat capabilities, his lofty draft position and the potential strength of the Tampa Bay
offense.   (Actually, I would have been happy with any of the three.)

I suppose the scale tipper in taking Williams was a pre-draft conversation I had with Dallas Morning News draft guru Rick Gosselin, for The Guru Report.   I asked him to pick the perennial Pro Bowler from among the Big Three and he chose the Cadillac which is good enough for me.

Commissioner Comments: 
Obviously I'm not the only guy who thinks the world of this Cadillac.  I got the same feeling watching him play for Auburn as I did with Stephen Alexander years ago at rival Alabama; now Tim just has to believe Coach Gruden won't leave Williams in learning mode for a couple of years as they did with Alexander in Seattle.

Cadillac can glide, slide, and lay 'em to the side, and if QB Brian Griese can continue his unexpected resurgence from 2004, this guy could easily be the most productive rookie of 2005.  Easily worth the trade, which cost Tim next to nothing.

3.10 WR Torry Holt
By Dolfi | Walls

Walls’ Take
– I am very glad we got two RBs in the first two rounds. The pickings were pretty slim in the RB department at this point. There were some RBs who are not a bad value at this point in the draft still available, but even more WRs who were much better values left to us here. A third RB is a nice insurance policy, and we may still go that way in the fourth round if a couple RBs we like are still around (Oops, Benson just went), but they all have question marks. We also kept in mind the hit or miss nature of the scoring in the league and the mandatory 3 WR starters, so making sure we got a very good WR1 was the choice we made here. 

It came down to Tory Holt or Joe Horn. Initially, I thought Holt was the easy pick, but comparing him to Horn, it wasn’t as easy as I thought. Their numbers were very similar, and their teams are similar in a couple aspects:

1)      Their offenses are better than their defenses
2)      They both have a good running game
 

So, this means (to me anyway), that they have ground games that can keep defenses honest; and that they will be in games where they will have to play catch-up through the air. That’s nice when you can get the primary target on teams like that. 

Horn and Holt should post very similar numbers again, and if you can get either with the 10th pick in the third round, do so.

Dolfi’s Take – We briefly toyed with a #3 RB here, but felt there were a couple of great values at WR that we couldn’t pass up – especially having to start 3 of them each week.

Torry Holt and Joe Horn were heads and shoulders above the pack in my mind.  And it wasn’t easy for me to make a decision between them either.  

Last year in total yards, Horn ranked #2 overall, with Holt at #4 overall.  Pretty darn close.  Horn had 1399 yards, Holt 1372.  Wow – really close again.  Let’s look at catches, especially since that’s part of the FAD scoring system as well.  94 for Horn, 94 for Holt.  Umm… no help in making my decision there.  Ok, ok – the old stand-by, let’s check out TDs.  11 for Horn, 10 for Holt.  Hmm… not getting any clearer.  How about games where they caught over 100 yards in passing?  Holt tips the scales at 6, and Horn got 5.  Damn – not much help there, either.  Horn only had 4 games where he caught less than 5 passes, but Holt only had 3 games where he didn’t catch at least 5 passes.  UGH!  Comparing these two is like trying to tell which of the Dawn triplets I’d rather date!  

So in the end, it came down to one single, solitary difference maker between these two for me… age.  Horn is 33 years old, and that’s getting up there for an NFL player who’s name doesn’t start with “J” and end with “erry Rice”.  Holt is a comparative youngster at 28.  I’m gonna have to go with the young(er) gun here, and pick Holt – but honestly, you simply can’t go wrong with either of these guys at this point in the draft.

Commissioner Comments:  
Are you kidding me?  Dolfi & Walls get to go to war this year with McGahee, Jamal Lewis, and Torry Big Play Holt?  Wow.  I wonder if the league by-laws give the commish the right to bump an owner and take over the team.
Probably not.  Oh well, I'll just have to settle for being happy for Chris & Tom, as their roster thus far looks at least as good as anyone's.  I can't think of any good reason Holt would be only the fifth wideout taken, except that he's clearly one of the top five.  Still, this smells like excellent value to me, averaging over 100 catches, 9 TDs, and 1400+ yds per year over the last three seasons.  Way out of Isaac Bruce's shadow, Holt is as much of a sure thing as you'll find in the 3rd round of any fantasy draft.

3.11 RB Cedrick Benson (R)
By Duane Cahill
Somebody, somewhere out there is asking, "Why would the Bears take Cedric Benson with the #4 overall pick when Thomas Jones rushed for 950 yards and seven touchdowns?"
 
I'm not one of those people.

In drafting Benson, the Bears get the workhorse, every-down back that Jones never was in his career.  As everyone knows, Benson rushed for over 1000 yards in each of his four seasons at Texas.  He scored 19 TDs in his senior year, so he has a nose for the end zone.  He's got a great work ethic (unlike his predecessor at UT) and will work hard to succeed in the NFL.  While Jones is the starter on the depth chart at the time of this writing, coach Lovie Smith has declared the competition open.  However, Benson is Smith's guy and you don't draft a running back at pick #4 to allow him to sit on the bench.  Benson will be the starter.

And if you're into karma, here's a bit of trivia.  Name the last two running backs that the Bears drafted with the #4 overall pick... . Gale Sayers and Walter Payton!

3.12 WR Joe Horn 
Shannon O'Leary

Drafting Joe Horn here in the end of the 3rd round isn’t exactly the most exciting pick. When offered the trade down, I did so because the guy I was wanting in the number nine position of the 3rd round went at number eight. I was looking at Tatum Bell all the way.

 

After he was gone, I didn’t see a running back on the board that jumped out at me. Being out of the country for the better part of the season last year I was not too sure about the rookie class. Although there appeared to be some decent choices here, I felt they all came with some risks. I opted not to gamble too much this early in the draft.

 

So after making the trade, I started looking at the receivers. I really thought Holt would slide, as others would grab up the rookie running backs. This did back fire on me, but I am not complaining about getting Horn.

 

What I get in Horn is one of 16 players to score over 300 points in this scoring system. All right he was number 16, but he is still in the 300 club. He was the number 2 receiver in this system last year. I think he did this somewhat quietly. Of course I was out of touch for the end of last year,,,, ummm Hanging out in Amsterdam .

 

If you look at Joe’s number’s they were double digit every week with the exception of one. Those are the kind of numbers I am looking for in this draft.

 

Joe signed a new deal this year, and really is one of the cornerstones of the Saints offense. Horn had the best season of his ten year career last year posting 1399 yards and 11 TDs. I see no reason not to expect close to those numbers again. I sure do think the Saints will after rewarding him with the new 41 million dollar contract.

Commissioner Comments: 
I have to wonder if Shannon is quite as happy now with his trade out of the 3.09 slot.  Cadillac Williams was taken there and Torry Holt right after, leaving last year's FanEx commish with a player who I'd think is clearly a notch below either of those.  While Horn has been consistently productive as a Saint, he's no Torry Holt, and his numbers in recent history reflect that.  With the Saints growing weary of QB Aaron Brooks' lackadaisical attitude, this streaky team seems to be on the slide.
 
Still, having said all that, it looks like Horn may have been the best player available for Team O'Leary at this point.  With Peyton Manning and Curtis Martin leading the way, I might have been inclined to bolster my backfield, but there's just not much left there by this group of RB piranhas.  That leaves not much, so again, it looks for the moment like the trade out of 3.09 hurt Shannon.

 

 

         
 

TC  Cannon

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